Pendles, Pressure & Origin Pessimism

AFLW pre-season is officially underway, and Bec gives listeners an inside look at the new Tigerland regime. Meanwhile, the coaching carousel keeps spinning across both the NRL and AFL, with more coaches biting the dust… although one had a 78-week notice period. And yes, it’s that time of the year again. Jack and Bec reluctantly turn their attention to the looming men's NRL State of Origin series, where as long suffering NSW Blues fans, fear tends to outweigh confidence. But there may be some hope on the horizon, with the women in sky blue already getting the job done and wrapping up the series 2-0.

Speaking of representative footy, Origin is heading to AFLW. The duo unpack the upcoming Australia vs Ireland showcase match and what it could mean for the women’s game. There’s also plenty of love for the greats of sport, with Scott Pendlebury on the verge of history, although the fun police might be spoiling the celebrations. Plus, Bec jumps firmly onto her high horse over another all-time games record she reckons deserves just as much attention.

This month’s Third Person In segment sees a guest dare to dream about premiership success… but can fans of their team actually believe it might happen? Before Jack and Bec lock in their Origin predictions and finish with something AFL fans probably haven’t thought about in a while. Strap in… or strap on. Either way, it’s another big month of Amateur Hour.

Credit to the third party audio we used: sitcomespecials0016 (7:17), Channel 9 (10:00).

Transcript

Introduction

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Hello and welcome to Amazon about sports podcasts, all the sports nuffies, buy a couple of nuffies. I'm Jack Wolbring and joining me as she always does is Rebecca Rebecca Millardavy. Rebecca? Rebecca Milladavy. How are you mate?

SPEAKER_03 0:22

I'm well, thank you. I cannot complain. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

I always struggle to get through the first thing because I read it, but I know exactly what I'm going to say every time. But uh start the show how you plan to finish. Amateurishly.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

It's a great name, um, amateur hour. It really has lived up to its uh to its name.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

We've got to start some merch, I reckon, at this point. We've been going long enough now. T-shirt or a beanie or something.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

Yeah, it'll be like um sort of ironed on the heart, like we'll really live up to amateur hour as well and just half half iron it on as well, you reckon?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Don't get it fully made up. It's just gonna be some sort of patch or yeah, just lean into it. Yeah, see if we can get a bumper sticker made up for the back of the the hyundai's.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Well, you're gonna get a bumper sticker for your new bicycle. Now you've really um you're real Melbourne now with a bike, DNA.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

You simply must though. They're so good.

SPEAKER_03 1:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

It's like shameless plug. I and it's like, well, this is so obvious. It's free. It's good exercise, you're outdoors.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Yeah. Tick, tick, tick.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Just need a little fun little basket for all your things at the front.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

It would be handy. It would be handy. I've tried to ride with the tote bag, and it's just I've even had to like put it like over one shoulder as well, and it just doesn't work.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Well, that's why I had to get the backpack because Yeah, but then you get a sweaty back. Oh, I'm just a sweaty person. I imagine you should be as well in your career, shouldn't you?

SPEAKER_03 1:39

I think guys are just sweatier than girls.

SPEAKER_01 1:41

Okay. That's that's true, I guess. Yeah, facts. Facts on God. Whatsoever.

Inside AFLW Pre-Season at Tigerland

SPEAKER_01 1:47

All right, mate. So the last time we saw each other in real life, you were just about to start pre-season. That's now a week and a little bit into your second week today as we sit here.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

And you were a little bit anxious last time I saw you, actually. Not anxious, but just a di a different looking preseason for you now. Different personnel over at Tiger Land in the coaching and management staff. So how have you found it, mate? How's the first week lived up to your expectations?

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Yeah, the first day, last Monday, basically, uh, our new general manager, Jane Woodlands Thompson, she promised that her meeting to kick off the whole thing wouldn't be boring. And she'd organised that the staff, they unbeknownst to us, the staff went in the room, were like, Where the where are the staff? Anyway, she goes, Okay, hit it. And the locomotion starts playing really loud in our meeting room, and our staff come in both sides of the doors and they start like doing a conga line. And it was quite, I was like, What is going on? But it was also just a really surreal moment because watching these staff dance in, there's like two faces here who've been here the whole time, and then maybe another two faces on top of that, who'd been here for the last couple of years, and then what another dozen faces are all just completely new to the program, which is really exciting. Like it really is refreshing and really exciting. So, yeah, last week was induction week, so it's a lot, a lot of meetings, uh a lot of information coming at you and a lot of forms to fill out, and um, it's probably all the boring bits, but the necessary evils, so to speak. Um not a whole heap of footy goes on. You do yes, you do your time trial, you do a few conditioning sessions, but it's not football specific, it's not huge days of like footy drills and yeah and stuff like that. Um, but now this week we're into footy, which is really cool, which is really exciting. So, and next week we have our camp as well, which is really quite early in a pre-season for us.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Where are we going for that?

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Don Bosco, down to safety beach. Yeah, it's like a school camp type setup. Uh, we've been there a couple times before. Great food, so that always helps helps you on a camp.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

That would be your takeaway. The food's good. Well, that's good though, that's important, mate. Yeah, nourishment's everything.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

So fuel is energy, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

Fuel is energy. Um, so yeah, all positive first impressions. Yep. This is a completely new thing for you professionally, like six seasons, seven seasons with the same head coach.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

Yeah, yeah, seven seasons with the same head coach. Yeah. Um, one before that. So I meant this is my eighth season, I think. Eighth season, seven, seven years? So maybe maybe six with Ferg, one with Tommy, and now one with Jared.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Um and with that being said, I don't know, it's only been a week in its early days. What do you think the biggest difference is at the moment?

SPEAKER_03 4:23

How specific we are in how we're training for your roles.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 4:28

We have role-specific rotations, like they're targeted to your role. Like he literally goes, Okay, key backs, Rebecca, Libby, um, Beth Lynch, you're over here, you're doing this drill. Inside mid, you're doing this, outside mid, you're doing that, keyboards, you're doing that. Like it is so specific to your role and the the game demands of what uh how we play the game essentially. So, like, yes, we could all we could all do aerial, but it's probably more specific for your your keys and your tools rather than your smalls. They're gonna make your feet, they should be doing ground balls. And when they're doing ground balls, they should be doing ground balls being rolled away, rolled to them, uh above knee height, below knee height, like not just the same sort of ground ball over and over again, because that never happens in the game where you get 10 ground balls the same type. So yeah, being really specific. Um Jared's also um really interesting. He's made us create our own drills at a couple times.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:19

Um, not not for the whole session, like we just do we call it IDP, individual development plan. Um, we have our strength areas and growth areas. Um, so depending which area we're trying to grow, whether it's the growth area or the strength area, we'll have a certain group. Um, for example, like this Saturday coming, I am doing ground balls as a growth IDP, and I've got um Gabby Seymour and Ellie McKenzie in my group, and today we workshopped uh the drill we're doing, and he's really big on he's like there's about six or seven different constraints on a whiteboard, whether it be like speed, intensity, number of people, distance, and a couple other things. And he's like, okay, so construct your own drill and be really clear on the constraints for your drill.

SPEAKER_02 6:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:03

Like what what are the constraints you're working on?

SPEAKER_02 6:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

So yeah, like it's sort of as you said today, we want you guys to become the best coaches. We want you to outcoach us eventually. So yeah, there's probably a couple of tidbits for you, which is yeah, really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Yeah, okay. And still no draw.

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Nah. No, no, it's getting closer, I think. I think they did announce the opening game.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 6:28

Which is gonna be a double header, uh, St. Kilda versus Carlton at Marvel Stadium on Sunday, August one. So it's gonna be a bit split.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

It's like gonna be opening round essentially. Split, sorry, split in terms of Well, we were slated to round one for us was meant to be the week after.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Oh okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:46

Uh put this double header the week before we're meant to start.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:51

So Sunday, August 1. August 9, sorry, August 9. August nine, okay. Sorry, my apologies. August nine. Because yeah, week one was meant to be the week commencing 10th of August.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

Um so yeah, those those two teams will play and then the rest of us will play the weekend after.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

And the draw should be out hopefully really soon. Fingers crossed. Yes, yes. You never know you're lucky in a big city.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

No, that's it. All right, mate. Well, let's get into the month of footy.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

I like to get the daily news.

Monthly Footy Wrap

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Another massive month. We're just about halfway through at this point and really starting to get a sense of who's going to contend this year.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Uh, a couple more coaches head for the exits. Entirely unsurprising, I've got to say, in Shane Flanagan and Michael Voss in the NRL and AFL, respectively. While more surprisingly, over at the Panthers, Ivan Cleary has given his 78 weeks notice. Uh, condition of, you know, four premierships, one year. That's how much leave you get to give. Um, but yeah, he'll see out his contract at the end of 2027 and hand over to Peter Wallace. The women's state of origin has been claimed by New South Wales in straight sets.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 7:56

Uh we've got some more details around the origin fixture in the AFLW as well.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

The men's origin teams have been announced yesterday morning for the opening game of the series in Sydney. Uh, we're halfway through the Sir Doug Nichols round in the AFL, and the NRL has touted this edition of Magic Round just score on the best so far.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Wow, big cool.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Well, finally, it's a big week for Scott Pendlebury and Collingwood in the AFL. Game 433 for the 38-year veteran.

Bec and Jack's Moments of the Month

SPEAKER_01 8:23

Uh, but before we start, Beck, what was your moment of the month?

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Moment of the month, I had I actually had a couple. And they're really niche.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Okay, I like that. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

One, I had round six, Geelong Katz, first Western Bulldogs at GMHBA Stadium. Jeremy Cameron kicked 10 goals. Like, that is very impressive to kick 10 goals. I hate forwards, and I'm happy for that to be on the record. I absolutely hate forwards.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

You've well, I mean, you've dabbled a little bit, mate. You've spent a bit of time up there. How many games do you have to play to be counted as a forward? You hate forwards, yep.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

But 10 goals at AFL men's level is outstanding. That's a lot. It's the second time he's done it in his career, actually. But 10 goals at this level in this day and age is incredible.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

And another one of the golden oldies, Jeremy Cameron, right? Like he must be getting up there age-wise, games-wise.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

Yeah, he is. He'd be about over 30 for sure. Um, he's a country bumped in, which I love as well. He's third at the moment on the Coleman medal. That's the leading goal kicker for the AFL men's competition. So that's one. And then the other one was really niche. Round nine, Newcastle Knights first, the rabbit hose up in Newey.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

An 80-point thriller.

SPEAKER_03 9:32

Yes, as they say. So, like two minutes ago, Knights are up by four points. Yes. Bunnies are pressing um on their try-line. Anyway, Calen Ponger hits, I think, the 5'8, maybe slightly like late, but like nothing.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

Cody Walker.

SPEAKER_03 9:46

Yeah, maybe, but like it wasn't a dog act. And then the referee Liam Kennedy blows a penalty for that late contact.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

And have you ever heard such rubbish?

SPEAKER_01 9:58

I don't know what this is gonna be, but yeah, go.

SPEAKER_03 10:13

Reducing force. We're playing anything.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Reducing force, like it's so long as you're not hitting someone hard, you can hit them as hard as you physically can. Like, that's the point of this board.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

When I heard that long, I've turned to my lumber flip, and I said, reduce your force? Sorry, what? Does he know what game we're playing?

SPEAKER_01 10:32

They had a similar one in the Warriors Broncos game over the weekend. Yeah. Um Carl Pereira was sent from the field, and he they they deemed that it was high, but it was like and it bounced up off his chest into his neck, and the referee was saying, Well, it's always an upwards trajectory and duty of care. And it's just like it's literally like they've been coached into the lawyer jargon of No, you hit you you hit him and it bounced up into his chin, and it's a penalty and it's play on.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Like contact sport for crying out loud.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Reduce your forces right up there.

SPEAKER_03 11:09

It's nonsense, but anyway, there you go. My moments of the month.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yeah, brilliant. I I like the niche, uh, the niche makings of that, mate. You've obviously been uh thinking about the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

Yeah, always. Always.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Uh my not so niche, um, the Warriors' performance in Magic Round over the weekend uh was my moment of the month. They took over Suncorp Stadium in what was technically a Broncos away game, if you believe it. 14 games at Suncorp for the year for them.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Yeah, right. Okay, no comment.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

I've you know, a few saying that they were, you know, the the Broncos are a little bit refereed out of it, but we love to see that. Like there's a team that can get refereed out of it. It's the Broncos.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

But they're just building really nicely into the season. A couple of losses, they're winning away from home. Yes, they lost their halfback about five minutes into this one, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_03 11:59

Right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Um, Tanner Boyd coming off uh with the suspected ACL once again.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah, unconfirmed, so we call it amateur because we don't put all the research in, but yeah. Oh so tough news for him if that's true. But they're just one of the the feel-good teams of the NRL, really. No one would be upset if they won the premiership this year.

SPEAKER_03 12:19

Is Metcalf back from his ACL?

SPEAKER_01 12:21

He is, but his sign with the Dragons. Um they brought in Tomario Martin off the well. I mean, he's he's got a seat out this year, so yeah. Um, but Tomario Martin coming onto the field in Jersey number 20 and they didn't miss a beat.

SPEAKER_03 12:35

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Um took care of the dragons pretty easily. So so yeah, that was my moment of the month. And with a couple of other teams, uh the storm not going so well this year, it kind of opens the door for a team like the Warriors. Uh top two finish would be the dream for them to get a home final and then a home pre-eliman New Zealand. So yeah, let's just hope they keep on keeping on, really.

SPEAKER_03 12:57

Nice, okay. Love it.

Coach Comings and Goings

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Uh, but let's start out, mate, with the coach comings and goings. Uh so it wouldn't have been long after this the last podcast that Shane Flanagan's left the building for St. George La Wara.

SPEAKER_03 13:09

Yeah, he didn't coach Anzac Day.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

No, that's correct. So the Which made me nervous.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

The first it was the first game had their caretaker coach. And beware the caretaker coach.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

I was Yeah, this is true. Yeah. Uh Colin uh Carlton on the weekend. Uh the effect there. It it it is often the case that you get a um a bit of a response from the team when the coach leaves, but not to be for the dragons. No. Um Dean Young taking over uh from his assistant's position there, but the dragons roundly beat on Anzac Day. Yes. Still haven't won a game, probably a little bit improved against the Panthers over the weekend.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

Really?

SPEAKER_01 13:45

No, not really. Just trying to be kind. I mean, score line-wise, but yeah. Um yeah, there's there's not a whole lot to like about the Dragons. And I mean you can't blame them. Shane Flanagan more than two years into his contract, no real signs of improvement.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Um obviously difficult having his son there.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Week in, week out, and having to answer those questions, but a job that he took on uh and a roster that he'd built to that point. So so yeah, I don't know. I I don't know what the dragon is.

SPEAKER_03 14:18

It's so interesting, him having to answer those questions, and then you've got like on the parallel, you've got Nathan and Ivan who would do it very successfully. Just yeah, interesting comparison piece.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

It's something that Ivan's alluded to the the only reason he took it on was because uh Nathan was unquestionably the halfback by the time he came back.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

It's two and a half seasons. Well, he played three played three seasons at the Panthers and played State of Origin by the time Ivan took the job at Panthers back.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Kind of takes that out of it where there probably isn't ever really going to be a better option than Nathan there.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

No.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

And it takes that stress of picking him every week out of it. Whereas seeing it with Brad Arthur at Parramatta, and like you say, Shane Flanning at the Dragons, where I don't think the Dragons probably did have a m has haven't had a much better, obvious option.

SPEAKER_03 15:08

You even got Ricky Stewart and Jed Stewart, Camber Raiders as well.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Yeah, yeah, Billy.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

There's not many in the AFL, but gosh, there's heaps in the NRL.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

No, is there there is there any in the AFL?

SPEAKER_03 15:19

Oh, not the top of my head.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

No.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

No. There's heaps in the NRL now that you say it out loud.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Yeah. Interesting. But yeah, I'd uh the dragons are in a world of pain. Like Ross Roster wise a disaster.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Uh it's not like it is over at Manley where Kieran Foran could conceivably get that job now and everyone would be.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

I don't even think it's a um it's not a rebuild, it's like a reborn reborn, rebirth or something they need to do.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Yeah. But they feel like from what? Like they haven't even had any success.

SPEAKER_03 15:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

It's just been they're they're kind of where the the Tigers were four or five years ago. There's no clear path out of this now, and they've just got to take their time and and find someone who's gonna be happy to take the long road back. But um, yeah, a a few more tough seasons for the Dragons, I reckon.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

I reckon you're right.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

Um over at Carlton, Michael Voss parting ways with the club. I think they kind of positioned it as pretty mutual, didn't they?

SPEAKER_03 16:17

Yeah, I think it was uh positioned as he resigned.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Yes. Yeah, sorry, yeah, that's probably more accurate.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

He jumped before he was pushed.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Or he was pushed, but they said he jumped.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

Yeah, any of those combinations and and probably just a bit of a relief for him at this point.

SPEAKER_03 16:36

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Uh four seasons, mixed results, but the last two below par and just looking like this season was going to be another long year. Um, and exacerbated to with the situation around Elijah Holland a few weeks ago in professional sport, and you know, Elijah Hollins might be a case of this, is that no matter how good you might be able to perform physically, mentally, it might not be the career for you. And I think that applies to lots of careers.

SPEAKER_03 17:08

I I don't high performance is not for everyone.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

No, uh not for everyone. We'll talk about Scott Pendleby later, but as much as you'll talk up his physical ability, like to play for one of the biggest sporting organizations in the world, to cope with that pressure every week.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

And to to decompress and do what you do outside of football, no matter, you know, female or male. That's it's incredibly difficult and it's it's not for everyone. And sometimes I think it's probably not normalized enough to just you don't feel like you can have a break. I'm sure you feel like that. It's like you there is no there's a game on the weekend whether you like it or not, whether you feel like it or not, whether you want to get out of bed and do it or not. That's and it's you're accountable to a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Absolutely. You can't just take an annual leave day like normal jobs. Oh, I'm gonna book a holiday for four weeks and I'm gonna take those three days off. It doesn't work like that in the world of footy. And and that's just the nature of it. Like we're very fortunate to live the lives we do and have the job we do, but there are some cons to it, like like everything in life.

SPEAKER_01 18:10

Yeah. That's probably a bit of a tangent, but um good luck to Vossi, probably an unfortunate victim of an organization that's just struggling.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see who applies for it and who they appoint as well.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

So yes, we'll sh we shall sh we shall see.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Uh but

Where does Ivan Rank?

SPEAKER_01 18:32

a very unique scenario over at the Panthers, Ivan Cleary, as we said, 78 weeks. 78 weeks notice.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

That's funny.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Uh, reluctantly called a press conference to clear things up on the basis that the players might want to know what's happening. Uh other people have to make decisions around their lives, and that he spent 35 years, I think he said, in coaching and playing.

SPEAKER_03 18:56

Were you bricking it when they said Panthers have an announcement at 2 pm today?

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Well, they the headline I always read, or the the details that I always read was Positive News. Was that he was seeing it out to the end of 27.

SPEAKER_03 19:09

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

But always a bit Uneasy? Uneasy. It like it no matter what, it's the end of some sort of era for them.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

It's just such a credit to the club that they held this press conference and nothing got leaked before it. Like it's such it's just such a testament to their culture that it was positive news, but there was no leaks of it. No. No one knew what Bean Antwerp was going to happen or what was gonna be about what it was gonna be about.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Yeah. And that's a credit to their organization and their respect for him. But yeah, of course, it's it's just probably indicating where the Panthers are heading more generally. They've had this awesome, you know, decade really, six, seven seasons now.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

And it always had to start to come to an end in some way.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

All good things come to an end.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

But more so it's just it I guess it gener just generates the rumour machine it's gonna be the most asked question over the next 12 to 18 months about where all the players are going as well.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Something like twelve players off contract at the end of next year as well. Wow. And with new franchises coming in and money to burn.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

That's probably more of a threat. But on Ivan, how does he rate rate amongst the greats for you? He said he's not gonna continue club coaching. Uh, he might have a consultancy role at the Panthers and he's interested in rep football, but he just wants more time in his life. So, to you, what coaches rank above Ivan?

SPEAKER_03 20:30

Oh god, that's a a question without nurse, that's a tough one. Um not many. No, not many, he's up there. Because how old is he as well?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

55.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Yeah, so young.

SPEAKER_03 20:44

He's achieved a lot in a short amount of time.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

And I think uh uh Craig Bellamy and um Wayne Bennett are the ones that spring to mind just because they've been around forever.

SPEAKER_03 20:53

Yeah, Trent Trent Robinson.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Trent Robinson as well.

SPEAKER_03 20:56

He goes, All right, yeah, he'd be up there, surely top five.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_03 21:01

In a modern NRL era.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Look, and that's it'll a lot of these things when you look back, you'll well and the next two years it's they're yet to be run as well. How he finishes the time off there, if there's another premiership or two.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

What where do you rank Ivan then?

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Oh, well, you know how I I rank him, and it's a it's a it's a it's a shame to not get a few more years out of him, but him and a couple of others that feel good have changed the Panthers forever. Like they're never gonna have someone as successful. It's the coach that you wait, you know, talked about Robbo for the Roosters and the way that Craig's talked about it at the storm. Um, yeah, then it's a really exciting opportunity for Peter Wallace to come in now. We're we're seeing this new wave of coaches come in younger, able to sort of empathize and understand the players that are coming through a little bit better, and I think he'll do the same.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Uh, a great opportunity to have 18 months leading into a head coaching position, which lots of people don't get to do, and to inherit a great roster. So yeah, I think Ivan won't have to buy a beer in Penrith for the rest of his life.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

The whole Cleary family won't.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

No.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

So uh yeah, I hope that Do you reckon that just adds fuel to the fire for the Panthers boys?

SPEAKER_01 22:13

I think it makes them more dangerous next year in particular.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

I mean, you you know that you can't play on emotion, but they get into the finals next year and that's a pretty, pretty easy motivator. So um they've sort of spoken about that sending players off at the end of campaigns as a motivation to win premierships.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

So he talked about in his press conference, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

So to send off Panther Daddy in style.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Panther Daddy. Big Daddy.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Um yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Wow, there you go, hey.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Okay. Well, we'll wait and see if they go back to back.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

To back. I suppose it can only be back to back.

SPEAKER_03 22:54

No, it can only yeah, get down up your high horse. Six or seven. Yes. Six seven. Six seven, as the young kids say.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Yes. All

AFLW Rep Footy FINALLY Announced

SPEAKER_01 23:07

right, jumping over to origin in both codes now. Uh, the AFLW confirming that their match their we call what are we we're not calling that state of origin. What are we calling that country of origin? Or just origin.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

Just Australia versus Ireland.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Yeah. Australia versus Ireland.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Representative football.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Representative football uh for the AFLW. That's been confirmed for August 1st at North Sydney Oval.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Capacity of 16,000 there, and the match will have clear air on TV. It's going to take place at 4 30. That's between two men's matches.

SPEAKER_03 23:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

In what's finally a win for the women's game.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

Yes, finally, hey. Finally. And it wasn't due on July, like they first said.

SPEAKER_01 23:52

August fine. I couldn't sneak it in on July 31.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Could have been Friday night. Uh yeah, very exciting. Um, yeah, it's gonna be very interesting. It's gonna be a bloody fast game because the Irish players are super quick.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

And North Sydney Oval is a small oval, as I know, uh, after playing there last year. So yeah, that should hopefully make it high scoring, um, which will be good for the scoreboard and for all the uh the haters out there who go women's footy don't score very highly. So uh yes, it'll be very, very fast-paced. Um I think the Irish girls will will give the Aussie girls a fair oh yeah, a fair run for their money. It will be Aussie, it's not it's not gonna be international footy, it's Aussie rules.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 24:33

Um but yeah, I th I think um they're gonna they have a lot to play for, the Irish girls. Like what? They'll come together pretty pretty strongly, I reckon. And you it'd be very united. Just hard to play against a united team.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Yeah, like it's sort of the the the I Irish just have to change channel that Queensland spirit, if you will.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Um what color jerseys are they gonna wear?

SPEAKER_03 24:56

I'm excited to see what they wear.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Guernsey, sorry.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it'll be the flag on on a Guernsey. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

The Australian flag and the Irish flag. Well just the Irish flag, the Aussie one You know, you don't the No I was gonna say that's a little bit holding copy all coded.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

I'd say how another countries do it, but not us.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

No, no, no, no. No, I think we'll just go great and gold, great and gold.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

I reckon. But yeah, we'll see. We'll shall see. Uh they've definitely got lots of talent in the midfield and forwards. A few of us were discussing which Irish players would play in the back line.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:28

Um but they have a really good Jennifer Dunn, who plays up at Brisbane. She's a great halfback. There's a couple of Irish girls over at Freo in the back line. Yeah, and you can also just put midfielders on the halfback line too and get them rebounding off as well. So yeah, it'd be interesting to see who they pick uh as defenders, the Irish, the Irish team. But uh yeah, it's also like, can we just pick North Melbourne to play Ireland? So we'll see who they see who they pick for the Aussie girls.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

But how is that process working? Do we know that yet?

SPEAKER_03 25:58

Um no, I did get an email from our players' association, but I didn't take much notice of it because I won't be involved.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

So You don't know that. I do. I could do a ballot. We like the NRL All-Stars, where you get to pick two of your favourites from each club. They should do that.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

I don't know. I don't know. Um I know they get paid five grand plus their flights. That's about five grand? Yep, to play this game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

You happy with that?

SPEAKER_03 26:21

Uh it's a start. Okay. It's a start. We'll take it. Yeah, they get their fight, flights paid for, accommodation, all that jazz. I just hope no one gets injured.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Yeah, that's the real yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

It's very close to the season, but anyway, that's the risk you take, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 26:37

And so is there anyone specifically you'd like to see run out for Australia in this one?

SPEAKER_03 26:42

For Australia?

SPEAKER_01 26:43

For Australia, well, yeah, it is Australia, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 26:46

Yeah. Um I'd love to see Matilda Scholes, the poor Adelaide ruck.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

She's watching her up close a couple years ago in our elimination final. She just blew me away. Like she did things that rucks are not meant to do. I was like, wow, you are talented. So her, I'd love to see her on the field. Uh, I think Moncon will be there. Monique Conti, one of our one of our girls. Um yeah, Chloe Malloy as well. She's pretty skillful. Um, loves the big stage as well, Chloe Malloy. Um, who else? Yeah, you you could you could pick out quite a few, really. So yeah, Mon Conti, Chloe Malloy, Matilda Scholes, uh, yeah, there'll be plenty. There'll be plenty of talent there running around on that oval, that's for sure. So get down there if you're in Sydney, fill it out, 16,000, you won't be disappointed.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

And I I reckon they're uh a certainty to sell that one out. Um, what do you have like you've touched on the venue itself, but what do you think about it being in Sydney? Is this something you'd like to see moved around a little bit? Why do you think they went with Sydney?

SPEAKER_03 27:46

Yeah, um, Sarah Hosk and I were discussing this. I think Hoscoe mentioned that the AFL want to try and create Sydney's a bit of a harbour potentially as a um gather round for women's footy up there. So they want to try and get that momentum for women's footy in the city of Sydney. It's a great oval, it's a great boutique oval to get a lot of people. It's very it's very picturesque and all Sydney oval as well. So now we just need Mother Nature to play her part, fingers crossed. There we go. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

It does rain a lot in Sydney, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Yeah, well, we'll probably just jinx it now by putting it out there, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

That's all right, bring an emergency poncho. Embrace it.

SPEAKER_03 28:24

We'll be probably like home for the Irish girls if it rains.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Cold and six degrees.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

Yeah, exactly. Blowing a gale. I hope I hope they um instead of running out, I hope they do an Irish jig on the way out.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

You suggest that, mate. Yeah. It's like cultural appropriation.

NSW Blues Women Show the Men How To Do It

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Uh in the women's AFL, women's AFL, women's state of origin. Yes. Uh another successful series for them. Woo-hoo! Mate, we'll just stop watching the men's and just watch the women's at this point.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

Well, they're teaching the boys how to do it. Because we in the modern three-game state of origin era, we we, you say blues, yeah, the royal we are undefeated at Suncorp Stadium. Did you hear that? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Pretty snazzy.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yep, not a fortress for them. It's a fortress for us.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

So how many attempts is that?

SPEAKER_03 29:08

Three.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

I think it's been three years for the three-game series.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Yeah. Yeah. Sounds right.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Uh 1412 to open magic round. 24 odd thousand, I think, in the house for that one.

SPEAKER_03 29:21

Bit of rain.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Bit of rain, bit of fun. Yeah. Um, big efforts from Tegan Berry and Jesse Southwell, two tri-savers. Yes, huge. Uh Jesse Southwell's in particular. It wasn't the one on the on the bell.

SPEAKER_03 29:34

No, and she was like almost on the medicab about a minute before down the other end of the field. So courageous, just c courageous. Newtabel spirit, how good is it?

SPEAKER_01 29:45

But do the women get Origin more than the men, do you think? Do you do you is there something about the way that they play that I don't know, resonates with you more?

SPEAKER_03 29:55

Uh no, not necessarily.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

No.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

I just think they're better at winning.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Yeah. Well, that's something that's something, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 30:01

They know how to win. That's for sure. Another sorry, actually, game one, uh, watching them run out, this was at Newcastle McDonald's Stone, McDonald Jones Stadium. The New South Wales girls ran out with a swagger, and I thought, Yeah, here we go, like, here we go. So I don't know if there's something in that, but yeah, they definitely carry that into game one and game two with that swagger.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

So And how important is it to go 3-0 in the series, do you reckon?

SPEAKER_03 30:25

3-0?

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Sorry, 3-0, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

Oh yeah, well they had the chance last year, the New Subales women, and didn't get it done. So I think uh I think they'll be pretty hungry to get it done to get it done this year. Like they would have learnt their lesson last year that this opportunity doesn't come around very often. So, like, go hard or go home, girls.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Um, also just some a couple of people have said Millie Elliott as well, who's took last year off to have a baby. Yep. And there's just straight, you know, first game eight months. First game back, is that right?

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Yeah, after eight months, after having baby Gigi.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

Honestly.

SPEAKER_03 30:59

Yep, playing the front row.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

Yeah. Incredible.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

Isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Didn't miss a beat.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

Nah.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

Alright,

Men's Origin Squad Lists - Ins and Outs

SPEAKER_01 31:06

shall we have a look at the men's teams then?

SPEAKER_03 31:09

Yes, before all hope is uh lost.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

Alright, so we'll start with New South Wales. At the back, James Tedesco winning the position off Dylan Edwards.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Brian To'o and Tolu.

SPEAKER_03 31:24

That's a fun name.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Tolu Cola makes his debut on the wing. Uh the centers are Stephen Crichton and Katoni Staggs, Latrell Mitchell, Latrell Mitchell ruling himself out, uh, aggravating his back injury in Magic Round.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

Yep, sad.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Mitchell Moses and Nathan Cleary the halves, the same pairing that started last year's series before Mitch Moses got injured for games two and three. Up front, Adam Fanua Blake makes his debut with that change of eligibility rules alongside Mitch Barnett, Reese Robson is the hooker. Uh Hudson Young, Hamoli Olakuatu in the second row, Isaiah Yo locks the scrum.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

Captain as well.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Captain as well. Uh on the interchange, Cam Murray, Victor Radley makes his debut, Jacob Safidi's recalled, and Blake Brayley. And then under this new format of a 19 person bench, Ethan Strange and Casey McLean are both there and potentially debuting as well.

SPEAKER_03 32:23

Oh, I I much prefer Ethan Strange over Blake Braille on the interchange.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Okay. So first question to you is Teddy at the back over Edwards.

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Yeah, huge.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Like it, dislike it.

SPEAKER_03 32:37

I feel sorry for Edwards. He didn't do anything wrong.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

No.

SPEAKER_03 32:41

He didn't do anything wrong. He didn't play poorly. He wasn't out of form. No. He's part of the team at the top of the table.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

He's doing his role. Has the connection with Nathan Cleary and Brian To. Uh huge call. I think uh I saw Laurie Daly, the head coach, talk about they want to win with by scoring more points.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Oh. That is how you win.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

It is how you win, but like it's original.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Out scoring them, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

Origin is not a points vest.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

Like it just we'll get to that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

I'm just like, oh I hope Teddy goes well. I really do. Yeah, it's a big call, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

I think it's a classic win-win. I don't think that was a bad choice.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

I think either way you're unlucky and you I can only pick one fullback.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

Very similar in terms of low error, high work rate, good support play. Teddy probably is a bit of a better ball player, bit of a ball hog sometimes as well, depending on who you ask. But if there's a criticism that in in recent years that the blues are trying to play too much like Penrith, that may come down to it just a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Uh possibly a little bit uh the a bit of food food for thought is that you've got Tolu Cola playing out of position on a wing. Why wouldn't you pick Dylan Edwards out of position on a wing? He's played for Australia. If you're not going to pick a specialist winger. So I guess that is a criticism for me in the back line is that you've picked someone who's been going well at centre as a winger in the biggest arena that we have, while Dylan Edwards has played there for Australia and then provides injury cover at the back.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

If Teddy goes down, they're kind of sending Critter back there.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Yeah, Laurie Daly's a bit cooked sometimes, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 34:26

But anyway, you can't plan for that. You can't plan for injuries. No. Uh and you can't make all your selections based on that. But that was just a strange one, I thought. So I'm happy with Teddy there. The centers pretty much pick themselves with Lattrell out, Stephen Crichton and Catoni Stags.

SPEAKER_03 34:41

I'm excited for Staggs, he's got opportunity. He's he's a really strong.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

When he's not elbowing blokes in the face for no reason or back of the head for no reason, spending two weeks on the sideline. Yeah. Good bloke. But yeah, deserves a recall.

SPEAKER_03 34:53

Yeah. We'll miss the Latrell, he rises to the moment. He's a big big matchman.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

Yes. I mean, having a great season, Latrell.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

Yeah. But he's no Latrell Mitchell, but he'll have a crack.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Yep. Uh Mitch Moses and Nathan Cleary. I think it's two inform halves.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Uh I I wonder what last year would have been like if Mitch had stayed healthy.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

I think they're yeah. I think that's just there was no real alternative there. There's a couple of up and coming players, but those two deserve the right to be there.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

They've got the runs on the board, they've both kind of got the job done at various stages.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Uh Adam Fanur Blake's a strange one for me.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Yeah, I did like my eyebrows definitely raised when I saw that one. I was like, oh, okay. Radio.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

Definitely missing Payne Haas would have been an automatic selection. So that's probably they're they're looking for someone who, if you saw a silhouette of, you'd think he's the same bloke, but he's not. But I thought Lindsay Smith and um Jackson Ford from the Warriors are unlucky to miss out there.

SPEAKER_03 35:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Yeah, just a bit of a strange one. Rhys Robson's been there before.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Uh I kind of don't know what Appy has to do to get a look. I know he's been out suspended, but I I think he adds something, especially off the bench.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

Especially if you want points.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yep, and they've got Blake Brayley there, who's a very similar player to Reese Robson.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

Yeah, just really bland that selection, Blake Braille. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 36:20

Wade Egan's also going pretty well at the Warriors.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:23

Uh and then second row, Hudson Young, been there before. But I don't know if he's I don't know if he's an origin type player.

SPEAKER_03 36:30

He's just a flashy player.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Like he tries to do, he tries to get a hand, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_03 36:36

He does. Just keep it simple, brother. Keep it simple.

SPEAKER_01 36:39

Olaquatu inform, uh, reward for that. Uh Isaiah Yo, first man picked basically. The bench is where it gets all a little bit strange for me. And we're already pushed for time today. So it's just a bench. Cameron Murray, Victor Radley, Jacob Saifidi, and Blake Brayley. Again, I think there's props in form over Jacob Safidi who could have got a run. And then Cameron Murray, Victor Radley, Hamoli Olaquatu, and Hudson Young all seem like similar sort of leg speed.

SPEAKER_03 37:10

Isaiah Yo as well.

SPEAKER_01 37:11

Isaiah Yo, like similar, very similar players.

SPEAKER_03 37:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

Uh Cameron Murray, I think, is a better option to start over Hudson Young. It's just a weird bench and it makes me really nervous.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

Yeah. I agree. I went, I don't need anything.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

Okay. Um, and as you said, uh, with the thing about points, I think this is a there's a level of anxiety from everyone about how Origin is going to be refereed. Um the NRL season's been good so far, but it's like it's the elephant in the room of the games have just been blowouts. Like it's the game seems to have fundamentally changed this year.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

And hoping that it's going to be refereed differently, I think both coaches are have kind of accepted that it's more likely it will be refereed a similar way with lots of six agains.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Possibly high scoring. We saw that last year in Perth.

SPEAKER_03 38:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

In particular. So they're both picked teams with that in mind. But yeah, I just you just don't want to be doing that, Norrigen. It just doesn't feel right.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

Your face right now looks like it's in pain for the listeners.

SPEAKER_01 38:14

But you you can just see it. Like you can see New South Wales being down early and having to the team to chase points. But and that's the thing, it's just the referee throws this anomaly into the mix. I think at Club land, clubs are still trying to catch up on the way that the game's being officiated. And now an origin's the same. And I think you and I, as purists, both know that the spectacle of rugby league is two or three tries each way and some real long periods of no points being scored.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

Rinded it out.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

Builds tension and builds the drama in the game. Having 10 try shootouts is not it's nice occasionally, but it's not what you pay to see.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

No.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

But anyway, New South Wales have picked a good team, but I can also see there being half a dozen changes after game one because they just get some of it, some of it badly wrong.

SPEAKER_03 39:04

Oh, why are you so pessimistic, Jack? It's like it's like we've never been let down before as blues fans, hey?

SPEAKER_01 39:10

A wise man once said, back history doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme. Starting to get into rhythm around this time of year. I'm starting to get down to your level of pessimism and misery. But like, I mean, and I don't even really care, but it's just a bit.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Welcome to the pessimistic train for New South Blues. Jump on board. I am the driver of that train.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

I did see a billboard for Origin driving from the airport today.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

So Melbourne's doing their bit, promoting their little stadium in their little game two.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

Little stadium that gets the biggest gets the biggest crowd out of all the crowds in the three-game series.

SPEAKER_01 39:42

Yeah, well, this is true.

SPEAKER_03 39:44

At the MC.

SPEAKER_01 39:45

Only because they sell $19 tickets, mate.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

Hey, still get the most crowd.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Um for Queensland. Kalen Ponger at the fullback, uh, beating out Reese Walsh, so a similar story there, uh, as New South Wales and their fullback. On the wings, Selwyn Cobo and Jojo Fafita makes his debut. Uh the centers, Robert Toyer and Hamaso, Tabuai Fido, Cam Munster and Sam Walker in the halves, Sam Walker making his debut there. Front row of Thomas Flegler and Tino Fasuamalawi.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Well done.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Harry Grant is the hooker, Ruben Cotter and Kurt Capewell in the second row, Max Plath making his debut at Locke, uh Brittany Nicera off the bench, also making his debut, Lindsay Collins, Patrick Carrigan, Trent Liero, uh, and then in Jersey 18, Ezra Mamm, and Jersey number 19, Gemat Shibasaki.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

Yeah, well, I'm happy Reese Walsh isn't there.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

You're happy? Yeah. You think that they've picked the weaker option?

SPEAKER_03 40:51

Uh I think they've gone with Calen Pongo because he's good defensively as well.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Safe.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:56

Whereas Reese can have the defensive lapses, he has the attacking brilliance, but he can also be a liability in defense. Um but I'm still happy they didn't pick him. Like that's a bit of a relief not having Reese Walsh to deal with. He makes you nervous, that's for sure. Ummy Walker, yeah, like he's he will make mistakes, but he's like a goldfish, that fella. He doesn't care. No, he just goes again and has a crack another an in the next set. So um, yeah, he's someone to be very very wary of and he'll learn minute by minute in that game, I reckon. Um yeah, Ken Munster. I know he's not in the greatest form of at Clubland, but he's a bloody Queenslander, so he'll rise to the club. It doesn't, oh it does not matter.

SPEAKER_01 41:37

And yeah, Melbourne had a couple of have had a couple of wins now.

SPEAKER_03 41:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Does not matter. That's the thing with Queensland.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

Absolutely. Harry Grant will be phenomenal. He'll control he'll control the game for them.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

They just look like they have a harder working, more imposing pack.

SPEAKER_03 41:52

Pretty reliable. Like that's I'm like, oh yep, tick, tick, yep, that's not a surprise. Yep, tick, tick, tick.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Tinner for Summer Alley, like club captain, Ruben Cotter, Slegler, Cotter, Lindsay Collins, Collins, Carrigan, another club captain.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Like just a bit more solid reliant.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

You know what you're gonna get from those guys.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

You've got the sort of the the unknown of the Radleys and the Olakuatus and the Hudson Youngs, and even Adam for Newell Blacks. Just the you hope they play their best game.

SPEAKER_03 42:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

But there's a couple of players like Hudson Young and Victor Radley could easily lose you the game in the same way.

SPEAKER_03 42:27

Sadly, we'll get sent off at one point in this game.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

I'm surprised that this late he's getting called up to go back to New South Wales for a second. But yeah, Queensland, it's just you always read through the team and you nod your head and you go, Yeah, I don't I don't know who's missing because who they've got's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:45

Some suggestions that Max Plath won't start at lock. Here's some cover for Harry Grant. And just yeah, let's, you know, if the fullback goes down, well, you send Hamasow back there or Cameron Munster goes down and KP goes to the halves. Like so, yeah. New South Wales favourite in this one, which I find.

SPEAKER_03 43:04

Well, it's because they're at home. It's a must-win. It's a must-win.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

Yeah, and that's that's what makes it even more anxiety inducing, right? Because it's that at home they have to make otherwise they have to come down.

SPEAKER_03 43:17

It's gonna be fun, all worked out well as a New South fan. You never let down.

SPEAKER_01 43:20

We said that last year, but they won't.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

Never heartbroken. Don't worry, you're fine.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

They won in Queensland game one last year, and I could have been more confident they were gonna stay at the series because they got a game in Perth, and then oh, they come home for game three and they Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:33

It's only because Cam Runs' dad passed away. As soon as that happened, I knew they were gonna win that series.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:39

Anyway, um, strap yourselves in for the roller coaster of men's origin.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Strap in or strap on.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

That's one way of putting it, mate. Genius. Genius.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

All right, well let's

SP433

SPEAKER_01 43:59

let's move over. To Scott Pendlebury game 4-3-3, the most capped player of all time, all for Collingwood.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 44:09

What a delight. If it's a team that needs a bit of luck, a feel-good story, it's Collingwood. Man of the match on an Anzac Day, which just shows at 38.

SPEAKER_03 44:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Evergreen. Has he re-signed for next year or made a decision for this year?

SPEAKER_03 44:23

He hasn't. Still hasn't ruled out next year playing on.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Oh, he could play for another. If you didn't know, you just watch him on his performances and you go, he could play another three or four years. Much the same way that Cameron Smith and the NRL was like that when he retired. So no matter what, he he goes out of champion or he goes around again and adds another 25 odd games to the tally.

SPEAKER_03 44:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

Could get to 500 games, mate.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

Could. He could, you never know.

SPEAKER_01 44:49

Uh but as usual, you know, Fun Police managed to play this game at home, missing the last two matches. Losing to Sydney by only six on the weekend, mind you. So they probably could have used him out there.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

Would have been handy.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Uh how do you feel about that, mate? I mean, they get to play West Coast at Saturday afternoon at home to celebrate the milestone. Is this an occasion where the man is bigger than Yes? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

I think he can choose.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 45:17

I've got no issues. Absolutely no issues with him choosing to play at the MCG. That's fine. You've I think you've entered the right after 433 games to have a say in where you bring it up.

SPEAKER_01 45:27

Turns like something that would have been a a bit of a nothing sort of spectacle. Colin would probably expect it to pretty comfortably deal with West Coast on a Saturday afternoon to now a sellout crowd.

SPEAKER_03 45:38

A couple years ago, Dusty's 300 pulled over 80,000 at the MCG. I was one of them.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

You know, that would have never happened if that wasn't his 300th game. It would have got like 30,000. So the one man can can pull 50,000 people towards the G, and it's gonna happen here with Scott Pendlebury. There'll be over 80,000 at the G to watch this milestone for him, I reckon.

SPEAKER_01 45:59

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

To say that they were there when he broke the record.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

Yeah, uh a moment in time that may never be broken, you would have to say.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

Yeah. Incredible.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

And a bit of criticism too from he's gonna receive the revenue from all the merchandise sales.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Why people are unhappy about that.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

Well, people just find a way to be unhappy.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Well, people aren't happy that he's wearing the gold number. I'm like That was bizarre. Oh, leave the guy alone.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Like what it's a colour.

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

Like it's a big occasion. Let him let him do that if he wants to.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

I don't understand.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Yeah. I mean they changed Alex Johnston into a gold jersey.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Afterwards, after the fact.

SPEAKER_01 46:44

During the game.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

But it just yeah, fun police.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

I got no idea why people are so up in arms about the gold number. Like, seriously, if that's what you're angry about, you've got some problems, I think.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

He's also said, they've Colin would have also said that uh he'll be making a sizeable donation to a children's charity from the revenue earned.

SPEAKER_03 47:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

But again, it's like it's such a unique scenario.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

And where would you want the revenue going? Like achievements are are celebrated in football clubs all the time. You you win a premiership and you're gonna you're gonna profit off sales from all the merchandise from that. So this is this is attributable to Scott himself, and it's one opportunity after 433 games where he's getting a chief. A bit of me time, so yeah.

Another All Times Games Record Tumbles

SPEAKER_03 47:31

I do wanna pause and also shout out Romelda Aiken George. She is a Suncorp Supernet baller who on the weekend just gone broke the game's record for the National League passing Kath Cox. Yep. So Romelda Romelda Aiken George brought up game 2055.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

Yep, against the New South Land Swifts over there in Perth. Unfortunately, the Swift spoiled the party and um yeah, won the game on her milestone match. But Romelda started in 2008.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

Uh she's Jamaican and she's played 19 seasons. She actually wasn't meant to be playing this year. Yeah. Uh she retired last year but got called up um because one of the fever goal shooters got injured or pregnant or something, so couldn't take part of this season, so she stepped in last minute.

SPEAKER_02 48:13

Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

Anyway, she's broken this record. Four-time premiership player, um, she's played 14 uh 19 seasons, as I said. Like and in these seasons there's only 14 games max because of the number of teams, right? So Scott Penerby played 433, which is a lot.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

Over 22, 23 seasons, but Ramel Dagon George has also played 255 games over 19 seasons. And I did not hear one peep. Actually, I I saw, I think my wife saw one social media post from KO and I saw something on the news, maybe, like one news article. Whereas I've heard about Scott Penrelby's milestone game for about three weeks now.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

The whole season.

SPEAKER_03 48:51

But there's no recognition given to Ramona Aiken George for her achievement on the weekend just gone, which I think is a true shame.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

That is a true shame. And literally miss like ten games in 19 seasons if they're playing 14 games a year. Like the the durability. Yes, huge. And then to get called up when you're not thinking of playing and just oh I'll just go around another season.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

And she also had uh she's had a baby in this in her career as well, and come back from that, like just phenomenal, absolute phenomenal, but you hardly heard about it, which I think is a real shame. So I want to shout her out here.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Good for you, mate.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

So Romelda, good on you, girl.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Netball's out for Romilda.

SPEAKER_03 49:29

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

All right, well, let's jump over to our third person in for this month, mate. And this is your guest star again, so I'll let you do the introduction.

SPEAKER_03 49:39

Now

Third Person In

SPEAKER_03 49:40

you may recognize this voice from the world famous ABC Sport Daily podcast. Um, if you haven't subscribed yet to that podcast, get around it uh because you can't really call yourself a sports nuffy if you don't listen to that podcast.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Okay, I'll have to subscribe.

SPEAKER_03 49:53

Uh it's a sports program, break down the biggest sporting news of the day in 15 minutes. Essentially, great program.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 49:59

Um, so yeah, she either hosts it or produces it. Um she's a proud Fremantle supporter, um, but a bloody pom when it comes to the uh cricket ashes, unfortunately. We met through uh the Star FM up at uh now known as Hit 93.1 Rena up in Wagga. Would have a yap every week when I have submitted my men's uh AFL tips for a few years. Yes. Uh we still keep in touch, and she's a bloody good journalist, and she actually did this third person in segment on her bathroom floor today, unfortunately, because she is in chronic back injury. So send any out thoughts and prayers to Poppy Penny.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

So one thing I want to talk about is I support an AFL team that has traditionally not been overly successful, but this season we are having a level of success that is surprising pretty much all of the fans. And I kind of want to know, this must be what it's like to be, I don't know, a Geelong fan, or I guess in recent years a Brisbane fan, or even in the last 10 years, a Sydney fan. They're teams that are always super successful, they rarely seem to miss finals, and between the three of them have made just about every grand final in the last few years. So when do you get over the fear that your team will just let you down because they have in the past for the record? I'm a free model dockers fan, which you can probably guess, but we're doing we're doing well, but I still just I just don't know if I can trust them, and I don't think I'm alone in our fan base feeling like that. So I just want to know when do you get over that?

SPEAKER_01 51:36

That's a great question. Or amusing.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Well, you probably can't relate winning four out of five premierships with the Penrith Panthers.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Yeah, but the I guess I th I find this part of sport and supporting a team to be fascinating.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Because it tends to be a decision in your life that you don't really make.

unknown 52:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

You're sort of either born into it or uh it's not something you research or put any rational thought into mostly, unless you're a psycho. Like you'll if you meet someone and they've sort of done their research and picked a team, yeah, yeah, that's a little bit concerning for me, and I probably don't want to be your friend. But like for you, or for you and I, talking about the NRL for a second, like we inherited teams from our parents, which is really normal. Uh, then the second thing is probably like geography, so where you grow up, if that's going to influence you. Um, I guess you've had a little bit of this experience with the Richmond Tigers and your professional career because you've kind of inherited a team in a certain way around a time that they've been successful. But like something that's that fascinated me. Obviously, when we started our friendship, the Roosters were a pretty reliably successful franchise that had won premierships at different points in your life. Whereas I was supporting a team who I always viewed as the underdog. And when they did well, as Poppy said, like, it always surprised me, and I never felt confident that they were going to be successful.

SPEAKER_03 53:17

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

If they had a season where they went really well, it was always sort of waiting for them to fail a little bit because they always had kind of, if they'd done really well in the middle of the season, like either tapered off or just there was a good 10 seasons of supporting them where they'd made a prelim unexpectedly in one season, but mostly it was a version of disappointment of the overall season. Whereas you kind of had always had that, you never really had to worry because it always happened regularly enough in your life, and it's continued to happen throughout our friendship. The Roosters won back-to-back premierships not long after. And then I think when you have like a level of success, like with a blue chip team that's always winning, it kind of takes the anxiety out of it because you've had all those experiences now, and then you actually just come to realize that it's a lot less about the results than you thought it might be.

SPEAKER_03 54:13

I don't know if you can say that to a fremantle supporter.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

No, and that's uh but what the the joy of that that is, have Freya won a premiership?

SPEAKER_03 54:20

No.

SPEAKER_01 54:21

So never there's always your first, you never forget your first, and that's true of m a few things, but that like your your first experience of winning a premiership, like the people that you're with, how that comes about, you don't want to wait years and years and years. You'd prefer that, but it can there can only be one every year. But then to experience that joy, that watershed moment, like you're giving a lot of poppy hope here. That's the lightning in the bottle, and that's like I said about the Warriors earlier, they'd be winning their first premiership this year if they won. Uh Fremantle right at the top of the AFL ladder. That's what you become as a partial. You become that's why those teams kind of get support. We had a golden three years in rugby league where Souths won it for the first time in 42 years, the Cowboys won it for the first time after 20 years of being in the competition, and Cronulla won it after 50 years.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

I don't want to wait 50 years until the next premiership, but I can only imagine what it would be like to go out every week and pay your money and be a supporter and to get to enjoy that when it finally happens. I said this to Harry, my brother, once. Would you rather have a kebab every day or just like once, once a year, or like pick your favourite food or something like that? There's like an oversaturation where like you don't want it too frequently because then it loses its luster a little bit. You kind of in sport, you have a team, but you're going for the opposition, even if you don't really realise it or think about it like that. Well you don't want to win all the time. You wouldn't want the roosters to win a premiership every year.

SPEAKER_03 55:54

Oh, I'd like to try it.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

There's like a there's a sweet spot, right? Of like you need to have it, you need to not have it for long enough for it to mean something.

SPEAKER_03 56:02

Well, I think the Freo fans, they're almost because at the moment they're on a nine-match winning streak, I think. The Dockers, like they're on an absolute tear. And their supporters, like, I'm sure Poppy's one of them, oh, just drop one soon, drop one soon. Yeah, that yeah, you need to they're like, it's just a psychology of sport, like you can't go through the rest of the season like this. We're gonna.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

They will.

SPEAKER_03 56:23

And I think it also makes it even sweeter for a Freya fan because West Coast Eagles are going so poor as well, arrivals. So uh it's the hope that kills you Poppy Penny. Um, but I think you're safe for September at least. Um you might have to books, you have to might have to books and flights with that uh handy discount you have uh back home to Perth. So warfy time, hey, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

I just enjoy it. It's just so nice to think about like those fans, they're all they're all sharing that experience together, right? They're they're all seeing that first premiership together. So and the rest of League will get behind them. You don't want to you know no one cares about the Geelongs and the Hawthorns and the Collingwoods winning another one. Everyone, if it comes down to that day in the last Saturday of September and it's Frio, every impartial is gonna be going for Frio. Well, I hope they're playing Switzerland. What about buying a membership just so maybe I got a grand final ticket, you know?

SPEAKER_03 57:13

Well, Frio. Yeah. Yeah, right. Well, I hope they're playing Sydney Swans in the big dance because they don't turn up for the grand final Sydney Swans.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

No, that's well then you've got to go through the anxiety that I go, oh Sydney, oh, they don't do very well in the grand finals, but oh, I've never been here before. But yeah, it's what makes sport so good.

SPEAKER_03 57:30

Absolutely. So uh sometimes you love it, sometimes you hate it. Sometimes it'd just be easy if we just like books instead of sport. But uh anyway, we can't help what we like, and here we go. Here we we love our sport.

SPEAKER_01 57:41

Yeah, well, thank you for Poppy for that contribution. Well done, Poppy. Go free.

SPEAKER_03 57:47

Yeah, and look after that back, mate.

SPEAKER_01 57:49

Yes. Well, what's is the bathroom floor just better to lie down on for a bad back or something?

SPEAKER_03 57:55

I might have added some mayo, but she was on the floor somewhere in her house.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

Okay. No worries. You lie down on the bathroom floor when you're really hung over because the piles are cold.

SPEAKER_03 58:04

You would

Predictions

SPEAKER_03 58:05

know.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

Let's get into our predictions, mate. We're gonna revisit the ones from last month. Yeah. And then we're gonna do an origin flavoured one for this month. But first, last month you said that Vossi would be gone.

SPEAKER_03 58:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 58:18

Big tick there. Thank you. Richmond to get 30k versus North Melbourne.

SPEAKER_03 58:23

Crowd attendance, not sure.

SPEAKER_01 58:24

Not sure. Uh, you also said that they would get their first win of 2026.

SPEAKER_03 58:29

Which they did against West Coast Eagles.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

The mighty West Coast Eagles. Uh, and then you also said that we'd have a women's AFLW draw, which by the time this podcast comes down, you know, you might be able to look it up for yourselves, but at time of recording recording. No draw. No draw. I said that Carlton would beat Collingwood, they did not. I said that Shane Flanagan would be gone, he was, and that the Roosters would win by 10 on Anzac Day.

SPEAKER_03 58:59

Or over 40, win by 40.

SPEAKER_01 59:01

Win by 40, sorry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:02

What did I say? 10.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 59:05

That was in the first 10 minutes that was done.

SPEAKER_01 59:07

Yeah, no, they easily accounted for the dragons on Anzac Day. So um two from three there. So, mate, for this State of Origin series.

SPEAKER_03 59:16

I am gonna say to protect my little heart, Queen's own origin by 3-0.

SPEAKER_01 59:22

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 59:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:24

Harry Grant, player of the series.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

Yeah. Grant or minus to take your pick.

SPEAKER_01 59:29

Yeah. I think we'll get a we'll get a Wednesday night back for game three because it'll all be over. We'll be able to just throw a movie on enjoy and not bother watching game three. So glad we're on the same pessimistic page there together this year.

SPEAKER_03 59:43

United in our pessimism.

SPEAKER_01 59:46

Now, to

Something You Haven't Thought About Lately... AFL Flavoured

SPEAKER_01 59:47

round us out, I did want to have another something you haven't thought of lately. And I did want an AFL flavoured one for this one.

SPEAKER_03 59:53

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Something you might never thought have thought of, something I never thought of, but I did some more research into because I knew it had happened. The AFL in China, mate.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:03

Yes, yeah. Port Adelaide, St. Kildar, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:06

Yeah, we'll started with a 2010 post-season junket. Yeah. And some of my research you might want to ask Brendan Favola about this because uh apparently it led to the end of his time at the Lions getting kicked out of a couple of nightclubs in Shanghai.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:19

Right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

Um, apparently uh Max Gaunt also threw up on Tom Scully. This is all Reddit. This is not me saying it, this is just me reporting on things in the found. So this was about a month after the season was done, they went there and did an exhibition game. Uh, Brisbane and the Demons. And there's also the rumour that the AFL said that they were having less players on the field to like encourage scoring and change things up. But apparently there was so many Demons players that were hungover they couldn't field a full team. So they had to get some support staff in and some fringe players to play in that one. But the AFL has gone properly in in fixtures to China three times in 2017, 18, and 19. Yep. About 10,000 at each of those. The only reason they didn't go in 2020 was because there was a small to medium virus over there and they couldn't get the players over there. Yeah, I mate, honestly.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:17

Storming a teak up.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:18

Yeah. Conspiracy. What do you think the future of AFL in China looks like? Do you think we've seen the last of it?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:25

Well, I think if it if they go back there, it's gonna actually be in India. Andrew Dillon went.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:30

If they go back to China, it'll be in India.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

If they go back to that region, it'll be in India.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:36

Uh Andrew Dillon had a trip there, had another junk there this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

Okay, so w how do you feel about India? Good market to tap into?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:43

There was a billion people over there.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

It was same in China.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:47

True.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:48

Too many rabbits in China.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:51

Uh yeah, I haven't put that much thought into it, to be honest. Alright. I would just like a draw. That's what I want. You can't have it all.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

All right, mate. We might call that a day.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

Alright, full time. Thank you, boy boys. Thank you, boy girls.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

Go Frio. Go the blues.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

Worfy time. Woo!

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

And we'll see how pessimistic we're feeling next month when we do it all again.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:13

Just wish wish us all the best. Wish Lisa the best. Louis wish Lisa the best. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

No one does a tougher in Beck's household than Lisa for the next six weeks. That's for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:24

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:25

All right, mate. Till next time.